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Mission Accomplished: Dialog and Exploration of Jericho Forum Happening

September 21st, 2007 Leave a comment Go to comments

Jerichoartist
Just to be clear, I don’t set out to "win" everything I post about.  It may come off that way, but I write from a stream of consciousness; my blog is usually my own little jot pad for working through thought patterns that could often times could use a little pinging from others on the subject.

My blog has seen the evolution of some of my thinking; it’s produced profound realizations and even reversals in my own opinions and thoughts.  I think that’s cool.

In the case of the last series of posts which started here regarding the Jericho Forum, however, I wanted to start a dialog.  I knew it was going to be a slog, because people always get riled up on the subject of the Jericho Forum’s vision.

I wanted to take this contentious subject and drag it into the light some more, especially here in the U.S. where the concepts are met with a litany of protest — usually due not to the content, but rather the context around which they are framed and by whom.

At any rate, I banged out my posts over the last couple of days and regardless of the fact that almost nobody can see the forest for the trees, here’s what we ended up with; I’d suggest reading the last two as the others are rather like a blog version of demolition derby that don’t actually rationalize much on the subject at all:

Mogull – Jericho Needs Assistance Restating the Obvious
Stiennon – De-perimeterization is Dead
Newby – The Horns of Jericho
Hutton – Jericho In Pictures
LonerVamp – Jericho 1-4: de-perimeterization and the jericho forum commandments

…and only because I love, I’m going to highlight the last line of what otherwise would be a very interesting exploration of LV’s Jericho ponderings:

So what we have so far is very heart-warming, feel-good idealistic
goals for a global infrastructure (extrastructure?) utilizing perfect
or near perfect protocols and devices that can withstand anything.
Sorry, but what the fuck…?

Wow.  I have no response to that.  On second thought, I do, but I’m not sure I can say it again without screaming.  See here for a clue.

If there’s anyone else I missed, send me a ping so I can add you.

/Hoff

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  1. September 22nd, 2007 at 03:58 | #1

    Nah, I said everything I had to say in your comments. I agree with everyone who said the equivalent of, "It's a floor wax AND a dessert topping!" And I've got nothing against Jericho; I'm sure they're doing the right things for their industry and responsibility.

  2. September 25th, 2007 at 00:22 | #2

    Jericho Forum Moves Us Closer to Ideal Security

    If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to my RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!The ideal state of security would be when a threat agent gets inside your domain, or gets access to your secrets, property etc., but it doesn’t matter.
    Hoff kicked off…

  3. September 25th, 2007 at 04:22 | #3

    Jericho Forum Moves Us Closer to Ideal Security

    If you’re new here, you may want to subscribe to my RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!The ideal state of security would be when a threat agent gets inside your domain, or gets access to your secrets, property etc., but it doesn’t matter.
    Hoff kicked off…

  4. September 25th, 2007 at 10:03 | #4

    Nice that you picked up on that line in the quote! 🙂 I liked it, but figured no one would read far enough to see it.
    I think Jericho had a proper theory 10 years ago. I think time is showing that they were correct in spotting a trend in moving towards data/devices, but I think they were/are wrong about it going all the way there. We're just seeing digital security expanding to where it should be: network, data, AND systems. No approach focusing on just one or even two of those will be sufficient.

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