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Citrix’s Crosby Says I’m Confused and He’s RIGHT.

Simon Crosby and I have been going 'round a bit lately arguing the premise of where, why, when, how and how much security should be invested by either embedding it in the virtualization platform itself or being addressed by third parties.

Simon's last sentence in his latest riposte titled "Hoff is Still Confused" was interesting:

Re-reading Hoff's posts, I find that I agree with him in just about every respect in his assessment of the technology and its implications, and I think we're doing exactly as he would recommend, so I'll be interested to hear if he has more to say on this

Well, how the hell am I supposed to argue with that!? ;)  OK, now I am confused! Simon's taken the high road and thus I shall try to do so, too.  I wrote a ton more in response, but I'm not sure anybody cares. 😉

All told, I think we're both aiming at a similar goal in spite of our disparate approaches: achieving a more secure virtualized environment.

But seriously, I don't think that I'm confused about Citrix's position on this matter, I just fundamentally disagree with it.

I feel strongly that Simon and I really are on different sides of a religious issue but without a more reasonable platform for discussion, I'm not sure how we'll intelligently discuss this more coherently without all the back and forth.  Perhaps a cage match in sumo suits!?

I appreciate Simon clarifying his position and reaching out to ensure we are on the same page.  We're not, but the book's not closed yet. 

So we agree to disagree, and I respect Simon for his willingness to debate the issue.


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  1. October 30th, 2008 at 17:15 | #1

    I felt like yelling out 'Buzzword Bingo!" half way through his second major paragraph (the one-liner calling you confused doesn't count).

  2. October 30th, 2008 at 17:31 | #2

    I have no strong position, but if you have a 15 minute sumo match, I'll donate $50 to a charity of the loser's choice. That way everyone wins.

  3. October 30th, 2008 at 18:09 | #3

    Challenge Issued. http://rationalsecurity.typepad.com/blog/2008/10/

  1. August 30th, 2010 at 23:26 | #1